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DevCentral > Weblogs > Lori MacVittie - Two Different Socks
 Please fasten your seatbelts, there’s turbulence in that there cloud
posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:30 AM

There is no evidence, no research, no surveys that indicate the cloud is, or ever will be, ready to completely outsource an organization’s data center. There’s no reason to even believe that’s the goal of cloud providers, though it might seem a logical conclusion. So making outrageous claims about the capabilities of the cloud, and the relevance of the data center, does no one any good.

What’s got me so riled up? This particular statement from a prediction for 2009 from Appirio:

But all this talk about “private clouds” is a distraction from the real news: the vast majority of companies shouldn’t need to worry about operating any sort of data center anymore, cloud-like or not.

coupled with this statement:

There’s also something very suspicious in all this discussion of private clouds…. private clouds are advocated mainly by companies who make their money from selling or operating data centers, and risk losing their shirts as real cloud computing drives more and more computing onto shared infrastructure.

That’s right, pack it in kids. You don’t need a data center anymore. You don’t need to store files locally, just put ‘em in the cloud. You don’t need to run any applications locally, just put ‘em in the cloud. You don’t need application integration, systems management, business activity monitoring, data mining services, or reports running locally. You don’t need an identity management infrastructure puppiesandrainbowsor control. You don’t need control over any of that “stuff”. Just put it all in the cloud and everything will be all better in the morning. We promise. And for a just a nominal fee, we’ll tell you how. If you call in the next 10 minutes (operators are standing by) we’ll throw in an entire month of compute cycles absolutely free (offer void where prohibited, cycles are limited, while availability lasts).

Now, Appirio “provides products and services that help enterprises accelerate their adoption of on-demand.” No, no conflict of interest there at all. No vested interest in ensuring that organizations adopt cloud right now before it blows away like so many other hyped technologies (SOA, Web 2.0, ESB). The arguments against private clouds sound pretty hollow when you consider the viewpoint and agenda behind the statement.

Anyone who’s watched the technology game for more than a few years knows how this whole cloud thing is going to play out: the same way SOA played out, and ESB played out, and Web 2.0 played out. It’s all exciting and new and right now everyone wants to play with it and oh, look at all the benefits and how there are no drawbacks! But eventually reality is going to come crashing down and like all major technology shifts the early adopters are going to start running into the turbulence in the cloud. Then we’ll sit down, buckle our seatbelts, and suffer through the bumps until we get through it and return to smooth flying. Along the way we’ll figure out where and how cloud best fits into our overall strategy and adjust accordingly.

That’s right, it’s not all puppies and rainbows, and we have yet to find all the bumps along the way. 

Management, integration, and process-oriented systems are not ready for cloud computing, and cloud  providers aren’t even considering these types of integrations and broader systems’ capabilities yet. It’s not even assured they will consider these necessities. I’ve heard a lot from cloud providers but I’ve never heard any of them claim they can replace your entire data center and its supporting software infrastructure right now.

The cloud is not ready to replace your entire data center. And it’s not likely to be ready until sometime in the next decade, if ever. We will soon see some applications moving into the cloud and most enterprises will take advantage of the cloud in some way, but it’s unlikely the “vast majority” will pick up and move en masse to the cloud. Even when it is ready for such a move we’re unlikely to see that kind of adoption rate.

The cloud model is a great one; we’ve been moving toward it for a long time. But the argument against private clouds (or whatever we’re going to call the adoption of cloud models locally) is not one based in any version of reality in which organizations necessarily must operate. 

I’ve heard some wild statements before in my time, but to claim that the vast majority of companies don’t need a data center any more not only takes the cake, it takes the icing and the plate it was served on.

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3/10/2009 7:56 AM
Gravatar Hmm, you're not a big fan of that particular message are you Lori?!

I do agree, there are a few organisations/individuals talking about the cloud space, that need dousing down with the ice water of realism.

There will never be a time when one "deployment model" is better than another for every example. Thought needs to be given to what we need today, and what is likely to happen tomorrow (or the day after) that may change those needs and plan accordingly.

Flexibility has always been a keyword in IT, and the next couple of years, I feel, are going to underscore that fact. You may find that you need to move from one model to another, so keep that bolt-hole open.

Nick
FrintonBoy

3/10/2009 11:07 AM
Gravatar Well put. Now how do you convince the industry to get off of buzz word shopping?

If anything the next generation might find more value in a managed or professional service assisted data center environment. Yet this has been around forever and is not new. It is far from cloud though in the modern sense.

I agree with Nick in that IT needs to be flexible. There needs to be more emphasis in IT being allowed to drive companies more so than they do today. The only reason things like Cloud and SOA etc came about are to convince companies that they can outsource. If anyone got the big picture they would realize that IT doesn't need a turn key no work solution; what they need is access to more customizable, nimble, and scalable solutions.

Ryan
Ryan King

3/10/2009 11:11 AM
Gravatar If I knew how to turn off the buzz word faucet I'd be independently wealthy! :-)

Seriously, I agree, 100%. IT needs flexibility. Both solutions and service providers need to enable that flexibility and not prescriptively bully customers into architectures or solutions or tie their hands.





Lori MacVittie

3/10/2009 12:04 PM
Gravatar Lori, thank you for posting this welcome dose of sanity. The hype around the Cloud makes reality-based discussions of applicability and implications difficult as we know all too well. I've found that misunderstanding and disinterest towards Infrastructure, including from some developers who should know better, is often fertile ground for spreading the illusion that the "cloud will replace your data center" and make your infrastructure irrelevant. Somehow the current economic conditions may also be fueling the marketing...what's next, the Cloud is going to end the recession??
Darow Han

3/10/2009 4:05 PM
Gravatar I personally was hoping for some unicorns, too. :^)

But seriously, your best sentence is this one: "Along the way we’ll figure out where and how cloud best fits into our overall strategy and adjust accordingly."

When we talk to customers (I'm with Cassatt), we hear a lot of interest in a gradual approach, and one that takes into account what they've already invested in (yes, those pesky in-house data centers), hence our focus on helping people make those more effective now, with an eye toward how you can send things to/fro into the cloud down the road.
Jay Fry
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