Search
Pete Silva - Daily Dose of Pete
You are here: DevCentral > Weblogs

posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:13 AM

600_cloud_over_beach If public, private, hybrid, cumulus, stratus wasn’t enough, the ‘Inter-Cloud’ concept came up again at the Cloud Connect gathering in San Jose last week.  According to the Wikipedia entry, it was first introduced in 2007 by Kevin Kelly, both Lori MacVittie and Greg Ness wrote about the Intercloud last June and many reference James Urquhart in bringing it to everyone’s attention.  Since there is no real interoperability between clouds, what happens when one cloud instance wants to reference a service in another cloud?  Enter the Inter-Cloud.  As with most things related to cloud computing, there has been lots of debate about exactly what it is, what it’s supposed to do and when it’s time will come

In the Infrastructure Interoperability in a Cloudy World’ session at Cloud Connect, the Inter-Cloud was referenced as the ‘transition point’ when applications in a particular cloud need to move.  Application mobility comes into play with Cloud Balancing, Cloud Bursting, disaster recovery, sensitive data in private/application in public and any other scenario where application fluidity is desired and/or required.  An Inter-Cloud is, in essence, a mesh of different cloud infrastructures governed by standards that allow them to interoperate.  As ISPs were building out their own private backbones in the 1990’s, the Internet needed a way to connect all the autonomous systems to exchange traffic.  The Network Access Points (NAPs) and Metropolitan Area Ethernets (now Exchange – MAE East/MAE West/etc) became today’s Internet Exchange Points (IXP).  Granted, the agreed standard for interoperability, TCP/IP and specifically BGP, made that possible and we’re still waiting on something like that for the cloud; plus we’re now dealing with huge chunks of data (images, systems, etc) rather than simple email or light web browsing.  I would imagine that the major cloud providers already have connections the major peering points and someday there just might be the Metro Area Clouds (MAC West, MAC East, MAC Central) and other cloud peering locations for application mobility.  Maybe cloud providers with similar infrastructures (running a particular hypervisor on certain hardware with specific services) will start with private peering, like the ISPs of yore. 

The reality is that it probably won’t happen that way since clouds are already part of the internet, the needs of the cloud are different and an agreed method is far from completion.  It is still interesting to envision though.  I also must admit, I had completely forgotten about the Inter-Cloud and you hear me calling it the ‘Intra-Cloud’ in this interview with Lori at Cloud Connect.  Incidentally, it’s fun to read articles from 1999 talking about the Internet’s ‘early days’ of ISP Peering and those from today on how it has changed over the years. 

ps

Related:

Technorati Tags: MacVittie, F5, infrastructure 2.0, integration, collaboration, standards, cloud connect, Pete Silva, F5, security, application security, network security, business, education, technology, application delivery, intercloud, cloud, greg Ness, context-aware, infrastructure 2.0, automation, context, web, internet, blog

Digg This


Feedback

7/20/2010 3:02 PM
Gravatar CloudFucius Asks: Will Open Source Open Doors for Cloud Computing?
Pete Silva

Let Me Know What You Think


Please use the form below if you have any comments, questions, or suggestions.

Title:
 
Name:
 
Email: (so we can show your gravatar)
Website:
Comment: Allowed tags: blockquote, a, strong, em, p, u, strike, super, sub, code
 
Please add 5 and 1 and type the answer here:

Blog Stats

Posts:285
Comments:98
Stories:0
Trackbacks:111
  

Post Categories

  Cloud Computing
  Security
  SSL VPN
  Information security
  pci
  PKI
  application attacks
  malware
  mitigation
  client security
  compliance
  notification laws
  social media
  social networks
  twitter
  facebook
  youtube
  digg
  peter silva
  social media stats
  ipv6
  ipv4
  2012
  context
  contextual aware
  user centric
  decision
  game show
  granular
  control
  identity
  cloud security
  virtualization
  sys-con
  cloud expo
  virtual
  glenn brunette
  sun microsystems
  Bruce Schneier
  Schneier on security
  research
  2009
  blog
  2010
  threat
  pci dss
  regulations
  espionage
  pentagon
  crown jewels
  tower of london
  health care
  banking
  prediction
  cybercrime
  cybercrime kits
  dyi
  dnssec
  dummies
  l0pht
  2600
  breach
  privacy
  breaches
  web security
  spam
  trojan
  gogrid
  blogger
  personal
  business
  H1N1 flu
  emergency preparedness
  disaster recovery
  network security
  oracle
  sso
  single sign on
  big-ip
  oracle access manager
  f5
  personal devices
  mobile devices
  mobile security
  windows
  microsoft
  windows 7
  desktop
  games
  gaming
  online games
  DDoS
  scams
  consolidation
  data center
  tech sector
  single purpose
  dedicated
  management
  access security
  policy enforcement
  utm
  processing power
  video
  audio
  multi-media
  dns
  webinar
  interview
  ioactive
  kaminsky
  dan kaminsky
  partner
  rsa
  xml
  splunk
  instructional
  in 5
  education
  training
  idc
  smart city
  smart grid
  infrastructure
  web 2.0
  standards
  inter-cloud
  interoperability
  application mobility
  peering
  confusion
  cloud confusion
  cloud survey
  edge gateway
  v10.1
  history
  words and meanings
  lists
  fun
  patent
  intellectual property
  trade secrets
  confucius
  cloudfucius
  series
  blog series
  a-z
  law
  constitution
  court
  fourth amendment
  gps
  government
  legal
  vmotion
  vmware
  case study
  interop
  v10.2
  database
  csrf
  asm
  adc
  arx
  data manager
  netapp
  storage
  WAN optimization
  application delivery
  optimization
  compression
  whitepaper
  statistics
  cloud research
  cloud stats
  LTM VE
  travel
  firepass
  encryption
  music
  humor
  uptime
  cloud outage
  SLA
  availability
  customer
  vmworld
  yankee group
  sports
  NFL
  performance
  acceleration
  peoplesoft
  rman
  recovery manager
  oow
  openworld
  replication
  integration
  apm
  wi-fi
  numbers
  firepass
  risk
  open source
  authentication
  smart card
  kerberos
  Business Challenges
  evidence
  SSL
  SSL offload
  NIST
  2048-bit
  certificate
  rss
  blog analytics
  web traffic
  e-cards
  hardware
  support
  diagnostics
  iHealth
  apple
  iPhone
  iPad
  iOS
  itunes
  smartphone
  v10.2.1
  citrix
  vdi
  parody
  satire
  entertainment
  andriod
  virus
  google
  mac
  comscore
  ID theft
  social security
  ssn
  synthetic ID theft
  credit report
  data privacy
  cyber threat
  reports
  50 ways
  2011
  trade show
  silva
  emc
  emc world
  ixia
  viprion
  ssl tps
  vCMP
  outtakes
  acting
  theatre
  tokens
  vpn
  remote access
  intrusion 2.0
  toys
  v11
  ajax
  SANS
  devcentral
  whitehat
  sentinel
  waf
  scanner
  grossman
  iApps
  wan op
  file virtualization
  hawaii
  emea
  ipexpo
  london
  UK
  human behavior
  risk managment
  tech center
  secure vault
  fips
  appliance mode
  copyright
  pearl harbor
  Dec 7
  punchbowl
  honolulu
  staffing
  jobs
  irules
  AppSec
  TradSec
  icsa
  v11.1
  community
  

82,243 Members in 102 Countries and Growing!

Join DevCentral Today!

About DevCentral

DevCentral has been a successful, thriving community for many years. We have always strived to bring you the best technical documentation, discussion forums, blogs, media and much more that we can.

So dive in, get familiar with DevCentral. We hope you like it, we hope it makes your job easier, and lets you get that much more power out of the community. To learn more, make sure to check out the Getting Started section. And if you have any problems, or think something could be easier to use, drop us a line to let us know.

Got It !

We've received your comment and transmitted it directly to DevCentral HQ.

Thanks for taking time to let us know what's on your mind. At DevCentral | Community Matters!

Get In Touch With Us

Have questions, suggestions or just want to get something off your chest?

Use our handy form below to Direct Connect with DevCentral Mission Control.

Send Us Feedback       or