I read a very nice blog post yesterday discussing some of the traditional pros and cons of load-balancing configurations. The author comes to the conclusion that if you can use direct server return, you should.
I agree with the author's list of pros and cons; DSR is the least intrusive method of deploying a load-balancer in terms of network configuration. But there are quite a few disadvantages missing from the author's list.
Author's List of Disadvantages of DSRThe disadvantages of Direct Routing are:
Some additional disadvantages:
There are more disadvantages than you're likely willing to read, so I'll stop there. Suffice to say that the problem with the suggestion to use DSR whenever possible is that if you're an application-aware network administrator you know that most of the time, DSR isn't the right solution because it restricts the ability of the load-balancer (application delivery controller) to perform additional functions that improve the security, performance, and availability of the applications it is delivering.
DSR is well-suited, and always has been, to UDP-based streaming applications such as audio and video delivered via RTSP. However, in the increasingly sensitive environment that is application infrastructure, it is necessary to do more than just \"load balancing\" to improve the performance and reliability of applications. Additional application delivery techniques are an integral component to a well-performing, efficient application infrastructure.
DSR may be easier to implement and, in some cases, may be the right solution. But in most cases, it's going to leave you simply serving applications, instead of delivering them.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
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I agree with the author's list of pros and cons; DSR is the least intrusive method of deploying a load-balancer in terms of network configuration. But there are quite a few disadvantages missing from the author's list.
Author's List of Disadvantages of DSRThe disadvantages of Direct Routing are:
Some additional disadvantages:
There are more disadvantages than you're likely willing to read, so I'll stop there. Suffice to say that the problem with the suggestion to use DSR whenever possible is that if you're an application-aware network administrator you know that most of the time, DSR isn't the right solution because it restricts the ability of the load-balancer (application delivery controller) to perform additional functions that improve the security, performance, and availability of the applications it is delivering.
DSR is well-suited, and always has been, to UDP-based streaming applications such as audio and video delivered via RTSP. However, in the increasingly sensitive environment that is application infrastructure, it is necessary to do more than just \"load balancing\" to improve the performance and reliability of applications. Additional application delivery techniques are an integral component to a well-performing, efficient application infrastructure.
DSR may be easier to implement and, in some cases, may be the right solution. But in most cases, it's going to leave you simply serving applications, instead of delivering them.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
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I assume by transparent proxy you mean that traffic flows through the load balancer (which acts as a forwarding switch) even though it is deployed in a DSR configuration.
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This would be similar to an L4 or L7 delayed binding scenario. Once the connection to the server is made, it simply forwards all requests/responses appropriately, but does not inspect the packets as they flow through the device. Because it is essentially acting as a bridging switch after the initial connection, all of the disadvantages apply.
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If it's acting as a true (full) proxy, then you can avoid the disadvantages, but you can't deploy the load balancer in a DSR configuration because the connections are coming from the load balancer (it becomes the client as far as the server is concerned) and must return to the load balancer.
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Can you define what you mean by \"PIP\" in this context? The term is frequently used in a variety of ways and we're trying to make sure we understand how you're using it so we can answer your question correctly.
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Thanks!
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You assertion that: \"load balancer can't use load-adaptive feedback balancing algorithms because it can't deduce origin state other than by heuristics\" is incorrect. Modern load balancers are capable of integrating with servers and applications and subsequently leveraging their state in dynamic load balancing algorithms.
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As far as compression on the origin server, it's inefficient and uses excessive CPU cycles. See: this post and included references re: CPU utilization, RAM, and impact on the origin server.
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Lori
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http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog51/presentations/Monday/NANOG51.Talk45.nanog51-Schaumann.pdf
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