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John_Butala
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Aug 17, 2010

How to avoid using traceroute -I option on servers behind BIGIPs

 

traceroute www.f5.com

 

traceroute to www.f5.com (65.61.115.222), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets

 

1 * * *

 

2 * * *

 

^C

 

traceroute -I www.f5.com

 

traceroute to www.f5.com (65.61.115.222), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets

 

1 206.196.142.92 (206.196.142.92) 0.272 ms 0.201 ms 0.228 ms

 

2 hlr-svcs-03-86 (206.196.142.204) 0.730 ms 0.435 ms 0.480 ms

 

3 hlr-core-01 (205.171.253.125) 0.475 ms 0.450 ms 0.463 ms

 

4 spk-core-02 (67.14.1.249) 24.595 ms 24.788 ms 24.560 ms

 

5 spk-edge-04 (205.171.153.58) 24.710 ms 24.692 ms 24.561 ms

 

6 63.149.216.130 (63.149.216.130) 25.122 ms 25.264 ms 25.207 ms

 

7 vss-20g-po6.spkn.tierpoint.com (65.61.96.118) 25.067 ms 25.246 ms 25.198 ms

 

8 www-llix.f5.com (65.61.115.222) 25.569 ms 25.262 ms 25.075 ms

 

9 www-llix.f5.com (65.61.115.222) 26.594 ms 25.570 ms 25.867 ms

 

 

ping www.f5.com

 

PING www.f5.com (65.61.115.222): 56 data bytes

 

64 bytes from 65.61.115.222: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=26.166 ms

 

64 bytes from 65.61.115.222: icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=26.082 ms

 

64 bytes from 65.61.115.222: icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=26.260 ms

 

64 bytes from 65.61.115.222: icmp_seq=3 ttl=246 time=26.136 ms

 

64 bytes from 65.61.115.222: icmp_seq=4 ttl=246 time=26.470 ms

 

^C

 

--- www.f5.com ping statistics ---

 

5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss

 

round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 26.082/26.223/26.470/0.136 ms

 

4 Replies

  • George_Watkins_'s avatar
    George_Watkins_
    Historic F5 Account
    Traceroute uses a UDP datagram packet by default. There is a possibility that Qwest may be blocking these packets destined for UDP ports 33434 to 33534. By using the '-I' flag you are telling traceroute to conduct the probe using ICMP echos. It doesn't appear that they are doing anything with ICMP echo requests, so that is why 'traceroute -I' and ping are working.

     

     

    -George
  • I work at Qwest and I'm doing the traceroute from our servers behind our BIGIPs. It seems that the BIGIP is doing something unexpected (from my perspective) with the UDP ICMP packets. I have a Standard UDP virtual server configured to forward all traffic and all ports. What is the best way for me to forward the UDP ICMP packets unfettered (and have the default traceroute report correctly) ?
  • George_Watkins_'s avatar
    George_Watkins_
    Historic F5 Account
    Check your version of LTM against this known issue: http://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/solutions/public/7000/400/sol7459.html

     

     

    -George
  • I don't think the known issue matchs my scenario since I'm running version 9.4.8 and not using SNAT. Although, the symptoms sound VERY similar.